Reverence and Music

God is My Boyfriend? Razormouth critiques theological ambiguity in modern praise-worship.

Who Wants to Hear “Les Miz?” Adventist preacher David Smith quotes C.S. Lewis on the need for humility in the face of conflict between traditional and modern worship.

Addendum: This contrast is certainly not intended to be a divisive finger pointed between contemporary and traditional church music. Rather- oh, I’ll just repaste my comment:

If worship is just time between you and God, then why go to church at all? Why not just sit at home with your bible and guitar and sing godly love songs in your room all Sunday?

Rhetorical question, of course. The church’s worship is a community event in which the body of Christ meets for the edification of its members and the glorification of God. Proper edification and holy worship must be based on the Word of God, and not just any loving words that evoke one emotion or another.

There’s nothing wrong with good modern music in our worship. I’ll bet there’s even some amazingly profound Christian Metal or Hiphop out there. But before we beat on our drums that “Jesus Rocks,” we must first make sure that our words and songs are solidly founded upon Jesus the Rock — whether in traditional or contemporary church music. That job is up to our songleaders and choirmasters, as they are led by the Spirit.

At the same time, we who critique Christian musical traditions must approach these with humility and respect for the reverence with which the singers worship the Lord. While we must be critical of theological problems in our midst, we must never cease to exhibit the gentleness and love of the Spirit among each other, regardless of cultural leaning.

Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.

Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near.

Comments

  1. Zach says:

    I have visted your site quite a few times now, and I like it. I love the differnet layouts.

    Anyways, I disagree with that first article 110%. I think the author is so off, and so wrong. Who is HE to dictate on whether or not it is real worship music. Let’s leave that to God eh? Not man.

  2. zoe says:

    Thanks for the links :)

    Zach – I don’t think the article is saying such music isn’t worship (doesn’t it say ‘we can’t judge the soul of the songwriter’, or something like that?), it’s just saying that there’s got to be something better for singing in church than a song whose lyrics are indistinguishable from a secular pop song.

  3. Zach says:

    My question then is why? Worship is a time between you and God. No one else. The words could be the exact same of that of a “pop” song. But that is not what is important in worship. It’s all about you connecting with God.

    Love, I need love

    You are love

    I need You

    Love, You are love

    That, the song by Sonic Flood, is a great example of this. The point of that is to sing it to God, and that is all that matters.

  4. zoe says:

    zach: I’m not sure that someone else’s comments page is where I want to debate church music, but I’ve got some rough notes in reply to your last comment on my blog.

  5. Paulo says:

    If worship is just time between you and God, then why go to church at all? Why not just sit at home with your bible and guitar and sing godly love songs in your room all Sunday?

    Rhetorical question, of course. The church’s worship is a community event in which the body of Christ meets for the edification of its members and the glorification of God. Proper edification and holy worship must be based on the Word of God, and not just any loving words that evoke one emotion or another.

    There’s nothing wrong with good modern music in our worship. I’ll bet there’s even some amazingly profound Christian Metal or Hiphop out there. But before we beat on our drums that “Jesus Rocks,” we must first make sure that our words and songs are solidly founded upon Jesus the Rock — whether in traditional or contemporary church music. That job is up to our songleaders and choirmasters, as they are led by the Spirit.

    At the same time, we are to approach any Christian musical tradition with humility and respect for the reverence with which the singers worship the Lord. While we must be critical of theological problems in our midst, we must never cease to exhibit the gentleness and love of the Spirit among each other, regardless of cultural leaning.

    Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.

    Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near.

    Hey, this should be a blog post, darn it.

  6. zoe says:

    paulo- you just said exactly what was in my blog post, but with greater clarity. :)

    (oh, and your comment system refuses to remember me. is this an opera6 bug?)

  7. Paulo says:

    Hey there, Zoe. Um, yeah, I tested this across Moz, IE, and Opera, and Opera 6 refused to remember user details, owing to patchy javascript support. I think Opera 7 might do it okay.

  8. sparticus says:

    Firstly I use Opera 7, and it doesn’t work. The odd thing is it works on my site and dean’s site I think we both use standard MT cookie code, so you could try reseting it to that?

    Onto the subject, I have to agree that some modern songs, while tune wise excellent just don’t seem to be any way near enough to decent theology. I mean some of the songs I’ve song recently are worse than sunday school songs.

    Eg

    “Hey Lord (hey lord)

    Oh Lord (oh Lord)

    Hey Lord (Hey Lord)

    You know what we need

    (x2)

    Na Na Na Na Na Na Na (x3)”

    Come on, surely their is a lot more we can say than this?

  9. Zach says:

    Sparticus, is there more that is needed to be said than that? The Angels sing the same thing over and over. It’s someting like: Holy Hoyl is the Lord, who was and is to come.

    I know that is not exact words, but it is to show you that worship does not require detailed words. “I love you Lord,” is enough.

  10. zoe says:

    okay, last comment on this. I promise.

    zach: I don’t think anyone’s suggesting that good worship music is that in which Calvin’s Institutes are recited, but ‘oh lord’ is a bit – lacking. As for, say, “glory to God in the highest”, or whatever: that’s putting the focus on God and his glory, not our own personal love for him (after all, our love for God is pathetic compared to his love for us, no?)